Kids, if you're applying for a job where part of the job is coding, the coding question we asked you is *not* about the answer. It's not about the code, and it's certainly not a question on if you can use ChatGPT. If we wanted code from ChatGPT, we'd HIRE ChatGPT, not you. #interview #tips #software
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Trojan Duck
In response to this post@ai6yr Teaching to tests that require regurgitated answers, and not teaching the steps required to derive those answers, has a downside?
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FreddyB Aviation Photography
In response to this post@ai6yr That goes for "Stanford misinformation experts" as well https://stanforddaily.com/2024/12/04/hancock-admitted-to-ai-use/
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Douglas
In response to this post@ai6yr you might need to adjust the question to ask them to explain the code.
@douglasvb Yes...
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Allan Chow
In response to this post@ai6yr asking someone to explain their pull request will increasingly become the honus on the tech lead to call people out on submitting code they didn't take the time to understand.
It will be even more important to call out implementations that are too inconsistent with existing patterns in the code base.
This is the new meta leads will have to deal with.
@ai6yr and tbh many leads are not equipped (aka they were promoted too early)
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Koen Hufkens, PhD
In response to this post@ai6yr There will be so much more of this. I'm also seeing this in the MSc / Phd programs I'm involved in. Not good.
@ai6yr Some more on this. I code, a lot, but I'm not formally trained in this in any way. What I do know is problem solving (from nerding around in linux mostly). And what I see increasingly is a total lack of problem solving skills.
I can code up things and at some point realize there is too much friction - which triggers the "spider" sense that there must be a better way. Then you hunt, in known literature, or reconsider the whole thing.
That last bit, today, is completely missing for many.
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HD
In response to this post@ai6yr so I used to have a "let's see how you handle resolving this not too complex geospatial issue with geopandas/shapley/pyqgis" style technical assesment.
When ChatGPT came along I figured there's no point in that any longer, so I devised a set of questions to include 'gotchas' that by design will not fail any code, but results are skewed in a way that's completely oblivious to the code, but simply looking at the data or resulta will hint at additional steps that are required.
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virgilpierce
In response to this post@ai6yr I left university teaching - Intro CS, Mathematics, Statistics, and Data Science.
A disheartening development over the 18 year career was the complete lack of curiosity I saw in my classes.
To be clear in every class I taught there were some students that made being there worthwhile.
But. So many other students wanted to get "The Answer" but would avoid any effort of "Why did it work/not work? What other things would have worked? Did my method, which seems different from their method, really do it a different way? etc."
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