Just saw the headline "Elon Musk accused of making what appeared to be fascist salute" from CBC. Is mainstream journalism too cowardly to call a straight up, broad daylight nazi salute for what it is now? How can you still be in denial about it?
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SkaveRat 🐀 :verified:
In response to this post@Gargron CNN calls it "strange salute".
Yeah, they are all too afraid of retaliation
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Brian
In response to this post@Gargron I don’t know about in other countries but apparently here the states? Yes. Yes they are.
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Seth "Football Collector"
In response to this post@Gargron The oligarchs in America own the media and support the felon in chief and his cronies. They won’t say boo.
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StroppyGirl
In response to this post@Gargron All English-speaking North American press seems to be covering it this way. Very unhappy the CBC is falling in line, too.
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Timo
In response to this post@Gargron I'm sort of shocked the hedge fund media even reported it, actually.
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斎藤ただし
In response to this post@Gargron I fully support you.
Mankind is stupid and history repeats itself, but we can only become a little less stupid when we realize we are repeating ourselves.
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Paul Stebbins
In response to this post@Gargron I’m afraid you’re right. Both CDN and US media seem reluctant to call it what it is.
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JKN
In response to this post@Gargron Fear and denial is how we got here.
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Victor Hugo Kebbe
In response to this post@Gargron Indeed. And all of press are saying the same.
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Toot Uncommon
In response to this post@Gargron I just had a professor of journalism full out affirm his unshakable belief that there is a fundamental first amendment right TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION!!! He holds a prestigious chair at a well-known journalism school. THE FOURTH ESTATE IS ALREADY DEAD, FOLKS!
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FallsMom 🟦 🌻
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Cowardly is the right word. . . and #obeyinadvance
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Dave Rahardja
In response to this post@Gargron Yes.
The fact that they are cowardly is also how Trump managed to become president despite being a convicted felon.
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Albert Sims
In response to this post@Gargron For some odd reason, even with the money mainstream journalism has behind them, they are still afraid of the orange Jabba the Hutt. They are cowards, plain and simple.
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ttamttam
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CBC being completely despicable and yet somehow better than the other major English national news outlets.
BBC: Elon Musk's gesture at Trump rally draws scrutiny
ABC (Australia): Donald Trump's inauguration featured awkward Elon Musk salute, Melania's fancy hat and a cappella from Carrie Underwood
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Bruce Elrick
In response to this post@Gargron The Anti-Defamation League's tweeted statement is... I'm not sure whether it's disappointing or chilling.
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CaliCarol
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Our main-stream (corporate owned) media has gone into a defensive crouch pretty quickly. But we have many, many other places to get informed. Like Mastodon!
#uspol
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Drip drip drip…
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I am going to say this. I saw it and what I see is a deeply broken men. Something in that person broke and there is no coming back, no repair. That guy is really fucked up, unhappy, angry, completely broke and the more he pretend to be fine and happy and “successful” the more he shows how fucked up he is.
I would hate myself if I worked for that guy, if I am in a relaitionship with that guy, if I am a family member of that guy or if I’m related to that guy at all.
@Drip_Drip_Drip Yes, he is a massive loser.
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Chupacabra 78704
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Im on it.
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stux⚡
In response to this post@Gargron That is indeed what happened.. it’s just bizarre
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And the ADL is trying to give him cover....
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Radio Justice
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Vichy is what Vichy does.
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zaitcev
In response to this post@Gargron It is not a Nazi salute, of course. And the lying scumbag journalist knows it.
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joriki
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here's AP news talking about fist pumping
first pic is AP app search results for "musk salute" showing fist pump story as the first result
second pic is the page at the top of the results with a paragraph about Musk fist pumping below the video where Musk does the nazi salute
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John🥛
In response to this post@Gargron ...not surprised...they're all still active on the site.
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djsf
In response to this post@Gargron tell me about it... even Snopes has an article saying "well Musk didn't tell us whether he meant these as Nazi salutes or not... so there's really no way of knowing!".
Gotta trust your own eyes and ears these days above all else.
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TheNovemberFella ✊🏳️🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀
In response to this post@Gargron #ElonMuskIsaNazi
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josh g.
In response to this post@Gargron looks like their video clip only shows the first of the two salutes as well, making it easier to dismiss as 'accidental'. pretty damn disappointed
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Cardboard Robot
In response to this post@Gargron “Corporations are people my friends”
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Patrick McLaughlin
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And the ADL is trying to pretend that what we can all see (twice) wasn’t what we saw, too.
Cowards and collaborators, all of them.
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Antonio Madueno
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Following Alice Weidel's argument that Hitler was a communist, this wasn't a fascist, but communist salute (?)
Just thinking.
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Joe
In response to this post@Gargron The fact he did it twice, once to the crowd and once to the flag, and it was even more blatant the second time is crazy.
No one seems to be talking about the second one, when looks even worse IMHO.
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James Henstridge
In response to this post@Gargron That's an unnecessary amount of hedging. Surely he was either "accused of making a fascist salute", or "appeared to make a fascist salute".
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JessicaMae Stover ✘ Author
In response to this post@Gargron https://federate.social/@JSto/113864602404731061
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Hanna
In response to this post@Gargron Yes, they are. In Finland only one media has a headline "Musk made a nazisalute" The rest are talking about a strange salute etc.
Yet again, the Finnish media has difficulties with far-right anyways. Only terrorist are called with the word far-right, otherwise they use softening euphemism.
And look at where we have head on that road - a far-right party in the government. A far-right party, that the Finnish media doesn't call as one. And is even a tad uppset, when foreign media does.
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Gdlhà :estelada: :gnu: :emacs:
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Yes. Too cowardly
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AndroidDreamer
In response to this post@Gargron *It would apart to be the case...* - so yes, and let's take notice!
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Paolo "grad" 🌳🐝 🐛♻️🌞🌐
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Italian media say "fascist salute" (quote); others say supposed; Musk italian spokesman says "because he's autistic".
Lies.
Nazi-Fascism is back, hatred and terror will come, again.
#nazifascism #fascism #fascismback #elonmusk #musk #salutofascista
Tags: #fascism #elonmusk #musk #salutofascista #fascism #elonmusk #musk #salutofascista #fascism #elonmusk #musk #salutofascista #nazifascism #fascism #elonmusk #musk #salutofascista #fascismback #nazifascism
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Jarek Rozanski ➡️ Wide Angle 📊
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Headlines are tepid, but at least in the article (Guardian) it is more direct:
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Devil :verified:
In response to this post@Gargron He did it again btw
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Zefir
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@Gargron Oh you know, it's really hard to tell. You can't really be sure.
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TrondC
In response to this post@Gargron If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it is a high probability that you are in fact looking at a duck...
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:fcknzs: Janneke 🍋 :verigold:
In response to this post@Gargron In the Netherlands I saw "remarkable gesture" and the term Nazi salute in quotation marks (very popular here to tone things down).
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Damiano Gacík
In response to this post@Gargron Elon Musk often makes bold statements and moves, but they don’t always have a positive impact on his companies or users. Sometimes his actions seem more like experiments rather than serious business management.
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M. Rajabi
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Thnx God he's not a communist yet :)
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Icono Clast
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My intellectual reaction to seeing that is neutral.
My emotional response is profound; it causes me to sob and cry every time I see it.
Further, I still have the same emotional reaction to January 6 now as I did then and am suffering this instant.
The fear I felt in November of 2016 proved to be greater than the reality but now I'm more fearful than I've ever been.
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Mike but Frosty ⛄
In response to this post@Gargron They absolutely are. They are afraid to call it out by name bdcause they don't want to be on the wrong side of the new olgiachs.
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Guillaume Ross
In response to this post@Gargron Of all the shit yesterday, seeing media cover it as an “awkward move that could be interpreted as a not nice gesture” is what angered me the most
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Kushal Das :python: :tor: 🇵🇸
In response to this post@Gargron They are the same journalists who are saying "No genocide in Gaza", so this is expected from them.
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John O
In response to this post@Gargron they seem too cowardly to note he probably did this knowingly too
knowing that it would enrage the left and play super well with his fanboys (partly because it so inflames the left) and becaue of both generare yet more publicity for him, and make him feel like the center of attention and master manipulator
and also knowing that he will do similar again, and again, and again
part of fighting this behaviour must be starving him of the attention he so craves. Stop using his name and picture. Refer to him as "one of 47's sychophants" or something
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Sijmen Mulder
In response to this post@Gargron meanwhile saying Israel should stop bombing hospitals is "antisemitism"
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DarkCyberman
In response to this postSilly attempt to a Joke
@Gargron It is only a Nazi salute when given in a specific region in Germany otherwise it is a “remarkable gesture”.
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Father Pat 🥊🇻🇦
In response to this post@Gargron I don’t know how that can be confused with anything else. Disgusting.
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Duke.Vim
In response to this post@Gargron Yes they are and he did it three times, still the ADL insists we shouldn’t get excited
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ClassyT
In response to this post@Gargron HMM…WHY YES; YES THEY ARE COWARDS AND COMPLICIT.
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Tim Allen
In response to this post@Gargron Two levels of hedge and qualification is a bit pathetic. It’s obviously true that he appeared to make a Nazi salute. It is also plain that he has been accused of making a Nazi salute. They could report either of those things with no risk of controversy at all. Abject cowardice.
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Yoba Boba
In response to this postHe'll backpedal from that like nothing happened.
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